Connecting the roots and trees of ancestors ...and learning, preserving, sharing

Sunday, May 21, 2023

breaking down brick walls - Thomas Briggs

 continuing from my last post, am going to trace (and hopefully figure out the connection), the witness to my 5x great grandparents' wedding in Banbridge, Down, Northern Ireland in 1788.


WHO IS THOMAS BRIGGS to my ancestors? Usually a witness to a marriage was a family member, so am starting with this assumption.

Next I will find out who he married, his descendents, and see if me or my siblings have any DNA connections (my father died years ago, before I could get him to test, but my siblings and I have)

I found a few baptismal dates (and Ballydown is the area where some of my ancestors are KNOWN to be from). Note there are other Briggs from the area, a shared ancestral space with my known ancestors.

31/05/1765      James           Thomas Briggs       Mary Kinnear           Ballydown
24/05/1768      Jane            Thomas Briggs       Mary Kinnier           Ballydown
03/08/70        Alex’r          Thomas Briggs       Mary Kinnier           Ballygown
16/06/1776      Isabella        Thomas Briggs       Mary Kinier            Ballydown
07/12/77        And’w           Thos Brigs          Mary Kinnier           Ballydown
13/12/1778      Jane            Thomas Briggs       Mary Kinnier           Ballyd--
24/06/1781      William         Thomas Briggs       Mary Kinnier           Ballydown

25/03/1767      Agnes           Thomas Lacky        Martha Briggs          Ballydown
17/11/1776      Thomas          Thomas Lackey       Martha Briggs          Ballydown

I found the aforementioned records here: Bainbridge Presbyterian Baptisms, County Down Ireland 1756-94 (igp-web.com)



breaking down brick walls - who are the witnesses? BRIGGS

 I have written about past brick walls and some of the ways I attempt to move through them.

One of those is focussing on the witnesses to marriage, as they are often relations (I broke down a major brick wall several years ago by using the witness to my paternal great grandparents' wedding and was able to find that he was a first cousin by tracing back his tree, and confirming it with DNA matches of mine at the 4th cousin level :)

So this is the latest one I have decided to revisit...it is a bit far back (especially for Irish records, where the marker of 1800 is often the date-limit of somewhat reliable research. It is worth trying....



Jun 30,1788     FLEMING, William          GREEN, Isabella
                witness                   BRIGGS, Thomas

wish me luck!

random research finds - BAPTISMAL RECORDS FOR THE BANBRIDGE NON-SUBSCRIBING PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, COUNTY DOWN, IRELAND 1756-1794

 This definitely qualifies - I found a few details of my own ancestors via this document:

BAPTISMAL RECORDS FOR THE BANBRIDGE NON-SUBSCRIBING PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, COUNTY DOWN, IRELAND 1756-1794
Sometimes, gems come in the most random of places. For me, this was one of them for one of my paternal lines.

I thank those who researched and compiled these as they serve as an access point for documentation that would otherwise be unavailable online.

Sharing should others benefit for their own family research: the records

ulster-scot names

 


It's a back and forth...my father was Scottish, raised in Glasgow, and yet much of his family ancestry is rooted in Northern Ireland.

I try to gap-fill, and look for resources, even just simply lists of names for guidance.

The searches in Northern Ireland have certainly led to me being better read on the Ulster Plantations, a period of history I learned about on my own, never covered in school

Family history seems ephemeral in many ways...there were few in my own family who ever bothered writing anything down, My mum has told me memories of her childhood in Ireland where her mother and family would talk about the family, and the layers and generations of it...yet they never wrote it down. Though my interest and research in family history has spanned two decades, I was too late...many of those who held the family stories died - and the unwritten family history went with them.

Sigh

a list of Ulster-Scottish names - I sometimes use this as a quick reference...anything to chip away at those brick walls of hidden/lost history.


Sunday, December 18, 2022

Hedge schools - Irish education despite it all

 I have been on the search for a while for additional documents about hedge schools in Ireland. When I am not engaging in family history and research, I am a healthcare worker, and I teach.

I sort of fell into teaching at the college level - one of my former instructors had an instructor back away from teaching a practical lab, and asked if I'd be interested, if I could help out last minute, so I gave it a go. 

And it felt so natural. It still does. I still love to teach the same subjects with a joy that seems to reach back.

Every generation of my maternal side has had teachers for at least 200 years. So here I am, continuing the tradition.

I do enjoy reading the Schools' Collection, and this excerpt mentions family of mine. The collection is a fun, sweet read, with a trove of remembered experiences not found anywhere else.

The homepage for the Schools' Collection.



Saturday, November 12, 2022

the Irish Ambassador researches and writes

 I have been tearing through post after post written by the current Irish ambassador to Canada, Eamonn McKee. He is a historian, and his insight into the Irish influence in Canada is broader than anything a student in Canada would be privy to in history books.

The depth of knowledge, woven into quick reads, well it makes one who enjoys the cultural aspect of family research completely drawn in. I don't know of any of my family that came to Canada, let alone Ottawa, before the late 20th century. But I have always wondered. 

I have read through the passenger lists of the Peter Robinson ships, partly because the vast majority of those on those ships were from north and west parts of Cork, places where my maternal lines lived on that land, enduring the shifts of history...I wonder if any/who may have left.

I am making my way through dozens of fascinating posts, of particular interest to me is tracking the development of the Irish heritage trail in Ottawa, which given my shallow roots in Canada, provides connection.

Eamonn McKee's blog with an extensive nod to the connection between Ireland and Canada.


Saturday, October 22, 2022

DNA cousin connections - the ones with NO dates, and so much private - but a tree!

 A common lament for those of us who engage in researching family history using DNA connections is the one with NO dates listed, no indication of country, no indication of their rough age, and name.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

For the past several years, a DNA cousin of mine has eluded me in terms of our connection. A 66cm match for me, 52cm match for my brother, not a match for my mother (my father died before I had a chance to get him to test). So yes, the obvious is I can narrow it down to my paternal side...but THIS is what I had to work with:


first and last name for 3 of 4 grandparents...how was I to figure out what seemed an impossible task. Spoiler alert (I did figure it out, and this is how):

I had NO idea who this dna match was to me, but with a 66cm, and 52cm match, I narrowed it down to a likely 3rd cousin - and perhaps as distant as a 4th, and added the "removed" possibility of a generation as it seems both parents are alive, and possibly one of 4 grandparents.

This took me to looking only at paternal lines of mine, and no more distant than my 3x great grandparents. I felt it most likely to be a match with one of my great grandparents, or 2x great grandparents, so I began from what I felt the closest possibilities were. I looked at our shared matches and was able to narrow it down to 4 of my 2x great grandparents as possibilities. I sort my DNA matches by known ancestor, and in unknown maternal and paternal for those I haven't figured out.




The first names available - Robert, George, Annie...sigh. For my match, I took the last names of George and Robert and started searching for possible parent matches, phone directories, city directories, marriages, anything...a few possibilities came up, all in England. None of my ancestors were from England so I was going to try the two names that had the best Irish or Scottish possibilities. Thanks to the middle initial of Annie being the one additional clue provided, I was able to narrow down the marriage of my DNA cousin's grandparents to less than half a dozen, all in England.

I then also looked at Robert's side, and his last name, also Scottish, and set to work in my own tree (I have just over 10,000 names in the tree I have built and researched over nearly 20 years).

I started from closest relations and went through my dad's journals, and great aunts and uncles and all of those I didn't have a huge amount of documentation for. I narrowed in on my father's AUNT. She had died in childbirth at the age of 29, my father had said her husband had committed suicide soon after, crashing a Rolls Royce. He had no details of her husband's name. My father did write the first names of the children, and what he thought was his aunt's name and position in the family. The children's first names were all correct. His aunt's name, and her being the youngest were not. Last week I found and paid for the death certificate I felt might be this aunt's husband's death. It confirmed he had worked in the motor transport industry, and he had died from fractures to the skull and nose less than 3 weeks after she died. I felt like this HAD to be a great possibility for this strong DNA cousin match that I have been struggling to figure out for years.

For this aunt, I had already written out many theories, and found enough voter registration lists and other documents to know his last name. I don't know where the 3 children lived and grew up as they were so young when they lost both their parents, and they did not stay in touch with my father and his family - when they died, he lost 3 first cousins to tragedy and time and the World War that would begin only a year later.

But I had a prospective last name to search with. Could this be Robert's wife? the living PRIVATE grandmother of my DNA match. I searched more records, one of the orphaned cousins popped up in Scotland in a marriage that would fit the approximate marrying age of my father's 1st cousin - in Scotland. I tested the theory and immediately found several public registers (voter registrations/phone books/city directories - these are go to's for me). CONFIRMED

This vague, undetailed tree with less than a handful of names, thanks to the steps I followed and a middle initial to help, solved a years' long mystery - not just for how I matched this DNA cousin, but what happened to the children orphaned after the tragic loss of their parents. One of my father's 1st cousins had something of a tragic end - in his 40s, in the US, alcoholism named in his death certificate, alone, without family, but the other 2 had remained in Scotland and built lives and future generations.

the DNA match - my second cousin, once removed. My great grandparents, her 2x great grandparents. Her father is my second cousin.