Connecting the roots and trees of ancestors ...and learning, preserving, sharing

Wednesday, May 25, 2022

1609 - ulster maps

 ...pouring through these beautiful, artistic maps from 1609.

Love stumbling upon gems like this (kudos to Queen's University Belfast for making these available online)

Many of my paternal ancestors lived in the Ulster counties. My father knew nothing of where his ancestors were from, so every find I make feels like a gift. 


I am taking my time with them - Maps of the escheated counties of Ireland, 1609 / copied at the Ordnance Survey Office in Southhampton, Colonel Sir Henry James, Director


Lisrath instead of Lisseraw

Crosmoyglan instead of Crossmaglen

Creggan stayed the same

more than 400 years separate these maps and the current moment

here they were in Fewes/Fews, in this map the Baronie of Fves.

Gem. 

Had to share

more to come!


Tuesday, May 17, 2022

the name game continues - Irish prefixes

 



I feel like I have read through an endless number of books with names in Irish vs. English, which occasions may favour one over the other, and equally, the name variations.

Truly, it is easy to become overwhelmed as a family historian.

I did find an article online that provides a succinct explanation of much of this, and saving it to this post, so I don't lose it (yes, I keep hundreds of bookmarks, folders filled with pictures and documents, genealogy notebooks, notes on historical periods...so much research).

Linking to it here, should it be of help to others as well.

A snippet to give you an idea of the contents...

Ireland is a bilingual nation and one of the earliest countries to evolve a system of hereditary surnames. ‘Mac’s and ‘O’s abound, but ‘Fitz’s and other prefixes as well. Surnames vary for men and women bearing the same family name; the prefix changes to Mhic, Nic, Uí or Ní. Further complications are created by transliteration and translation from Irish to English. Róisín Nic Cóil explores the problems this presents for alphabetization and some possible solutions.


Saturday, May 14, 2022

and more about names...


The book I am using to share information from is completely free, and full available online:

Special report on surnames in Ireland, with notes as to numerical strength, derivation, ethnology, and distribution; based on information extracted from the indexes of the General register office

by Matheson, Robert E. (Robert Edwin), Sir, 1845-1926; Ireland. Register General

It has been a snapshot of a period in time, and yet so many of these names remain essentially unchanged in use and popularity in Ireland. I hope others can find it as useful, and as fun a read, as I have.

Thus, inspired from this book, an explanation on how surnames gained hold in Ireland:

Surnames in Ireland may be divided with reference to their derivation into six essential categories:

- Personal Names.

- From Rank or Occupation.

- Animal, Vegetable, and Mineral Kingdoms.

- From Locality.

- Personal Peculiarities or Attributes.

- Other Surnames.


"The great bulk of the most common names in the country are undoubtedly of Celtic origin.

Many oi them still retain the- prefixes and Mac, the former peculiar to Ireland and the latter

used both in Ireland and Scotland. In many cases, however, these prefixes have been dropped.

It is a matter of common occurrence to find in the same record Celtic names written with the

prefixes and Mac and without them.

It is impossible now, in some cases, to trace whether families are of Celtic or English descent, as

some of the English settlers took Irish names, and Irish families were compelled to adopt

English surnames.

By a Statute of 1366, it was provided, inter alia, that "Every Englishman do use the English

language, and be named by an English name, leaving off entirely the manner of naming used by

the Irish "

; and in 1465 (5 Ed. IV., cap. 3), a law was passed enacting " that every Irishman that

dwells betwixt or amongst Englishmen in the County of Dublin, Myeth, VrieU, and Kildare . . .

shall take to him an English Surname of one town, as Sutton, Chester, Trym, Skryne, Corke,

KinsaJe; or colour, as white, blacke, browne ; or arte or science, as smith or carpenter; or office,

as cooke, butler . . ."

The existence of the two languages in the country accounts for the practice which prevails in

some parts of Ireland of using English names with their Irish translations or equivalents

interchangeably..."



some of my ancestral names and where they are found (as noted in the book)

  • AGNEW - Antrim, Armagh, Down
  • ANDREWS - Antrim, Down
  • BARRY - Cork, Limerick, Waterford
  • BRIEN - Cork, Dublin, Tipperary, Waterford and Wexford --- note FEW are found in Ulster
  • BROWN - Antrim, Londonderry, Down and Dublin (seen with an E more often for Cork)
  • BUCKLEY - Cork, Kerry, Dublin, Kilkenny, Tipperary
  • CADDELL - RARE NAME  - ONLY 6 BIRTHS IN IRELAND IN 1890, 2 IN ULSTER (name variant 5)
  • no CARRAGHER mentioned for 1890 Births 
  • CONNOR - everywhere
  • CRONIN - Cork, Kerry, Limerick
  • DONOGHUE - Kerry and Cork
  • DOUGLAS - Antrim and Londonderry
  • no DRISLANE
  • FITZPATRICK - everywhere
  • FLEMING - antrim, dublin, galway, londonderry, mayo
  • FORREST - Cork
  • GAW - rare - Down and Antrim
  • no HEYBURN
  • JOHNSTON - everywhere
  • MCGEOUGH - Monaghan and Louth
  • MITCHELL - everywhere
  • O'REGAN - Cork and Limerick
  • QUINLAN - Tipperary and Kerry
  • SEXTON - mostly Cork, Clare and Limerick
  • SOMERVILLE - mostly Ulster
  • STOKES - fairly rare and everywhere
  • SWEENEY - Cork, Donegal, Mayo, Kerry












Ireland Old News - Newspaper extracts

 


Patience is a requirement for the family historian....that may be the most understated sentiment of all. The thousands of hours rifling through old documents, obscure resources, going beyond the leaves that Ancestry posts...

On my various searches, I do dive into resources that don't make it into the resources of the big, DNA genealogy company search tools.

I like Ireland Old news for its snippets, a time capsule, pieces of daily life from hundreds of years ago. Was reading through the remnants that have been posted for County Cork, and stumbled upon this little gem: (image added by me, found on this blog:

Hibernian Chronicle, 18 October 1770


CATHERINE HIGGINS, Distiller, in Cove Lane, outside Southgate, Cork, takes this method of informing her friends and the public that she continues to distill all sorts of malt and melasses [sic] spirits, little inferior to foreign; rasberry brandy, whiskey shrub, anniseed water, wormwood water, hot surfeit water, usquebagh [whiskey], with all kinds of cold waters, all of which she will sell on the lowest terms, and will give great encouragment to those who buy for sale. She returns her grateful acknowledgements to all her customers and requests a continuance of their favours, who, with all others, may depend on being well used.



Sunday, May 8, 2022

Flemings in Down - thoughts



Image result for ballydown"
photo from wiki




DNA
key to my ancestors
link to distant cousins with a shared passion
to know our ancestors
to learn from them
to fulfill their promise
to breathe life into their lost names, etched in stone, fading in old churchyards

My 4th cousin 2x removed gave me a tremendous family gift - PLACE
thanks to his reaching out, I took his names and places and found mine
gratitude washes over me with the faces of my past
County Down, in the area around Ballydown
this cousin was born in the area
he lives in the area
he has stories
his stories are my stories
now I know them
now I record them
now the past has place, which makes the ground of the present feel more solid
and soon I will know the land and walk where my ancestors did

The O' and why so many of our ancestors dropped it

The Irish identifiers like O' and Mc were dropped for concerns of employment, learning, living.

Irish Central is one of many sources that speaks to this (and a few other fun facts about Irish names).


As the English took hold of property and rule over Ireland, dropping the O' was believed to have been done to avoid further discrimination.

I have seen this as I have researched my ancestors. I have seen this with religion too, particularly with my Irish Catholic branches in the North. Best I can surmise is that the switch to Protestantism was often based on employment as well.

a few additional links about the O' and names in Irish:

Patronymic prefixes

O' surnames

A comprehensive list of Irish surnames